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I'm not sure if it's really a bug: in my reduced (IE completely removed) Win7x86 I have a folder "Internet Explorer" in program files with only one file in it: ieproxy.dll. But in my Win7x64 I have a folder "Internet Explorer" in program files as well as in program files (x86) with 18 and 19 files and one folder in it. Why?

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nice finding, normally the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer should contain also only ieproxy.dll (if im not misstaken) the rest should be removed at windows 7


ieproxy.dll is needed for several tools and programs, without it they fail to start.

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This seems to be a much bigger problem than I thought.

I have a x86 slimmed down Win7 I made in march 2015 with Winreducer7. The sizes of the Wim-files are:

boot.wim   111MB
install.wim   779 MB

I made a new reduced Win7 x86 with exactly the same sources as last year and the same (only on difference, see below) preset (I rebuild it manually) with EX-70 v.1.5.1.0. The result is:

boot.wim 139 MB
install.wim 1,19 GB

The differece in the size of the boot.wim is because "ISO - Boot - Clean Boot Wim" does not work in EX-70 (see my other post), so that I didn't switch it on. BUT the difference in the size of the install.wim means, that Winreducer EX-70 is MUCH MORE inefficient than the old Winreducher7!

Disappointing ...

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does your new iso contain all updates till this month? if yes than this is your "problem", because if you integrate updates into your iso the wim file will get bigger, and even after reducing it it still will be bigger than a previous iso.

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No. I used as source a ISO with integrated updates from 03/2015, the same as I used then with Winreducer7. It's all the same expect the tool: EX-70 (and one switch, as I noticed).

I really wish I would have made a mistake ...

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Here my both wccf-files from 03/2015 and today:
http://www1.zippyshare.com/v/KuHj0WNQ/file.html
http://www1.zippyshare.com/v/ho6laYkD/file.html

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hey,

it seems your iso is so much bigger because you didnt use :

   


in your old iso you used that feature, and thats probably because you used to protect:



to keep the windows update feature the winsxs folder is not cleaned.

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KrX, thank you for your answer. Unfortunately I can't see your Quotes, the boxes are empty.

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Hanyo wrote:
KrX, thank you for your answer. Unfortunately I can't see your Quotes, the boxes are empty.


the first Quote:

 <Element Category="Optimizations" Name="EXPERT - WinSXS Folder Cleanup (install.wim)" Selected="false" /> 

Code:

 <Element Category="Optimizations" Name="EXPERT - WinSXS Folder Cleanup (install.wim)" Selected="false" />




the second:

<Element Category="Presets" Name="Protect Windows Update" Selected="true" />

Code:

<Element Category="Presets" Name="Protect Windows Update" Selected="true" />


hopefully you can now see it Wink

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Thank you, KrX!

The trouble is: The switches you mention allways are back to the wrong position after the Winreducer run!

What I want to say is: I switch on "Optimize ISO size" and "Use EXPERT optimations" and on the next run it's switched back to off. I switch off "Protect Windows updates" and it switches back to on. I switch on "EXPERT - WinXSX Folder Cleanup ("install.wim") and it switches back to off.

When I change all these presets and save a wccf, those presets are not in that file (obviously because Winreducer changed them). I edited the wccf and loadet it and became these error messages:

[SOLVED] [EX-70 - v1.5.1.0][6.1.7601] Internet Explorer  remainder P210
[SOLVED] [EX-70 - v1.5.1.0][6.1.7601] Internet Explorer  remainder P110

Those components are not removed.

Why is ist not possible to change those switches?

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hmm im not sure, maybe it´s an bug maybe not. i never got this problem. the switches are either grayed out or i can switch them on and the components are removed correctly.

i think we will need to wait for winter to solve this mystery xD

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I edited the wccf manually and after a restart of Winreducer it was accepted without that error message above and without switching back. BUT: After Winreducers work the intall.wim is still 1,19 GB - exactly the same as before. Here ist the wccf: http://www88.zippyshare.com/v/a1tYSGDP/file.html

I never had such mysterious phenomenons with Winreducer7.

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Hello,

1) About the Presets error messages, that will be entirely reworked in the next weeks.

2) About the install.wim size, I see in your wccf that you used "Automatic Removing Process" (not available in WinReducer7). This helps you create (and reduce) your ISO by automatically handle many components dependency (depending on which ones you chosen). But the "Automatic Removing Process" components dependency are always overwritten by all "Protect Preset" : so in your case you choose "Protect Windows Update", and this will prevent to use the components "Optimizations - EXPERT - WinSXS Folder Cleanup (install.wim)" which is responsible to achieve the best size reduction.

==> To bypass this, you need to disable the "Automatic Removing Process" component (this activates the manual edition mode = you choose your components by yourself) ... then select "Optimizations - EXPERT - WinSXS Folder Cleanup (install.wim)" component. TAKE CARE in manual edition mode you need to handle by yourself all components dependency with the risk to loose some functionalities.

Please let me know the result, like this when I will improve this part I will add the necessary changes.

I wish you to have a nice day !

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install.wim is still 1,19 GB   :-(

Here is my old wccf: http://www64.zippyshare.com/v/ITR9aQcW/file.html

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Sorry, I forgot to mention to also uncheck "Presets - Protect Windows Update" : because this will remove the protection on the "Optimizations - EXPERT - WinSXS Folder Cleanup (install.wim)" component, like this you will be able to select it to be removed.

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You mentioned it and I unchecked it - i swear! It switches back on its own. Here is the wccf produced by winreducer: http://www97.zippyshare.com/v/V3tyUvpj/file.html

I tried it already to edit the wccf manually but it also doesn't work.

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Sorry, your link is not your wccf Wink

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Here ist the wccf: http://www112.zippyshare.com/v/nE97VgtW/file.html

And here is what I really did:

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Try to also deselect "Preset - Protect Windows Features", this should work correctly ... and don't forget to select "Optimizations - EXPERT - WinSXS Folder Cleanup (install.wim)".

Please let me know.

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That's it. Now the install.wim is 772 MB - a little bit smaller as with the old winreducer.

I have two questions:
Does switching off "Protect Windows Update" mean that windows update won't work?
Which windows features are protected with "Protect Windows Features"?

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... but still those "IE remainders" I mentioned in my first post:
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Hanyo wrote:
That's it. Now the install.wim is 772 MB - a little bit smaller as with the old winreducer.

I've planned many improvements in order to reduce even more the system ... that's just a great beginning Wink

Hanyo wrote:
I have two questions:
Does switching off "Protect Windows Update" mean that windows update won't work?
Which windows features are protected with "Protect Windows Features"?

1 - No, but you have to keep all necessary components if you need it
2 - "Accessories - Windows Features", "Control Panel - Programs and Features", "Control Panel - Programs and Features (Files)", "Optimizations - EXPERT - Net Framework Folder Cleanup" and "Optimizations - EXPERT - WinSXS Folder Cleanup (install.wim)". "Presets - Protect Windows Update" is also activated by precaution.

Hanyo wrote:
... but still those "IE remainders" I mentioned in my first post

I've planned to solve this in the next build [it should be released next week]

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winterstorm2050 wrote:

Hanyo wrote:
... but still those "IE remainders" I mentioned in my first post

I've planned to solve this in the next build [it should be released next week]



still there ;P

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FIXED in v1.6.1.0 !

Hello guys,

I fixed the bug with the folders not properly cleaned ... and the "ieproxy.dll" is needed for using Windows.

I wish you to have a nice day !
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