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Whirlinurd

[EX-100 - v1.8.6.0] [Build 15063.413] Cumulative Update (KB4025342) Failed to install

on Thu 13 Jul 2017 - 20:15
Hi.

Earlier cumulative updates installed without problems on my current reduced Windows 10. Now the latest version fails to install. Really frustrating completing a working build and using it day to day to see it go poof again on the updates. I will try again to find the culprit this time.

Here we go.

The last time this happened if i remember correctly it were the following components:

- Application Experience (Engine)
- Network - Wireless - Marvell
- Cortana

Still can't understand why these aren't protected by the Windows Update preset.

This time it seems to be someting else. Maybe somebody has an idea.

Currently reducing several builds:

Build v0.1 - Basic build

- (Download) - Probably complete. Not sure.
- (Restart) - Update doesn't start.
- (History) - Reports succesfull installation.
- (Download) - Cumulative update restarts.
- (Restart) - Cumulative update fails at 8%.
- (History) - Update succesfull installation.

Results...

Windows 10 version same as before. No update fails. No roll-back either.

Build v0.2 - Adding Accessoiries

- (Restart) - Cumulative update fails at 7%.
- (Update) - Couldn't finish message.
- (History) - Update succesfull installation.
- (Download) - Cumulative update restarts.

Results...

Windows 10 version same as before. Update fails. No roll-back.

Build v0.3 - Adding Control Panels, Drivers, Keyboards, Languages

- (Restart) - Cumulative update fails at 8%.
- (History) - Update succesfull installation.
- (Download) - Cumulative update restarts.

Build v0.4 - Adding Modern UI Apps, Multimedia

- (Restart) - Cumulative update fails at 7%.
- (Update) - Couldn't finish message.
- (History) - Update succesfull installation.
- (Download) - Cumulative update restarts.

After a crap load of builds the new conflicting components are:

- Still completely lost. Added a lot back and still no update. Taking a lot longer as I thought.

ps. If anybody has time would they please post if the latest updates works and a general direction which components were removed.

Thanks.

For your help with the following components...

Features: - Net Framework 4.6 Network Advanced (can be Disabled only)
- Removed in current build. Will add in testing.
Accessories: - Tablet PC (Ink) - can be removed with latest WinReducer
- Removed in current build. Will add in testing.
Network: - Azure Active Directory

- Not removed in current build.
Internet Explorer (Developer Tools)

- Removed in current build. Will add in testing.
 Tweaks: - System - Disable User Account Control (UAC)

- Not removed in current build.
Services: - App Readiness Service
- Not removed in current build.
Windows Indexing (can be Disabled only)

- Not removed in current build.


Last edited by Whirlinurd on Sun 16 Jul 2017 - 21:30; edited 18 times in total
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deVilbaT

Re: [EX-100 - v1.8.6.0] [Build 15063.413] Cumulative Update (KB4025342) Failed to install

on Fri 14 Jul 2017 - 10:04
Try not remove:
Network: Azure Active Directory.
Whirlinurd

Re: [EX-100 - v1.8.6.0] [Build 15063.413] Cumulative Update (KB4025342) Failed to install

on Fri 14 Jul 2017 - 12:29
Thanks.

Network - Azure Active Directory was not removed. Sorry to say it's something else.
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deVilbaT

Re: [EX-100 - v1.8.6.0] [Build 15063.413] Cumulative Update (KB4025342) Failed to install

on Fri 14 Jul 2017 - 12:48
Ok, so this is for me:

Code:
   Features: - Net Framework 4.6 Network Advanced (can be Disabled only)
Accessories: - Tablet PC (Ink) - can be removed with latest WinReducer
    Network: - Azure Active Directory
             - Internet Explorer (Developer Tools)
     Tweaks: - System - Disable User Account Control (UAC)
   Services: - App Readiness Service
             - Windows Indexing (can be Disabled only)

Edit:
It seems to me that writing this list does not make much sense. Any new update can do anything that has been removed by WinReducer earlier and a newer update will fail. I just think.

On the above it worked with me with 3-4 updates downloaded automatically and went without problem. Until the last I had to look for and found Azure Active Directory. My Windows has almost everything removed.
Whirlinurd

Re: [EX-100 - v1.8.6.0] [Build 15063.413] Cumulative Update (KB4025342) Failed to install

on Tue 18 Jul 2017 - 9:34
Back again.

Did a few more things trying out what is going on. Installed a complete version of Windows 10 RS2 on my system for the moment to have thing working for now. Had some extra time and could not resist to try one more time. Now I only removed the following to keep it very clean.

Windows 10 Home v0.1
Removed:
- Features
  - Hyper-V (0.1)
  - Windows Media Player (0.1)
- Remover
 - Drivers
  - Hyper-V (0.1)
  - Printer (0.1)
  - Scanner (0.1)
 - Keyboards
  - All
 - Languages
  - All (0.1)
 - Modern UI Apps
  - Bing (0.1)
  - Zune (0.1)
 - Themes
  - Almost All (0.1)
 - Multimedia
  - Windows Media Center (0.1)
- Finish
 - Optimizations
  - Optimizations
   - ISO - Boot - Delete Unneeded Editions (0.1)
   - ISO - Windows - Delete Unneeded Editions (0.1)
 - Options
  - Removing Speed
   - Highest (0.1)

As you all can see I did not removed very much but still the same problem exists. Can not update the latest cumulative update. Still it is downloading, installing and finally loops back again.

I can try rebuilding the same preset without integrating updates and see if that works but then it means that the integrating part of Winreducer is not working properly with RS2 which is possible.

And at last I see that the cumulative update downloaded by Winreducer is KB4022716 and then it tries to install KB4025342 which fails.

Normal clean install of Windows grabs KB4022725 and also KB4025342 and then it installs successfully.

As I can see KB4022716 is an update after KB4022725. Maybe the updates should be in sequence this time and can not skip to KB4022716 directly.

Going to grab a download of KB4022725 and using this for Winreducer with the same preset and will see if it works then.

Thanks.

Update: Tried a KB4022725 install integrated with winreducer. This time the update counter goes to 14% and then restarts but again does not complete the version update. Cumulative update still received as successful in the update history but KB4025342 again runs in a loop since the Windows version is not updated. In essence the same as before.

Can integrate KB4022725 and KB4025342 with Winreducer the same as Windows 10 updates itself but since there isn't a newer cumulative update available yet I can not test if this will work.

Have no idea what is differen't with KB4025342 and why it isn't compatible anymore when Winreducer has been used. As I said earlier the clean install installed everythine fine.

One last build with the same Winreducer preset removing the main updates and letting Windows doing its job. This will probably work just as good as a clean iso install.

Lets see. BRB.

As expected a clean install reduced worked fine. Will wait for the next cumulative update and will see in which combination a further reduced install will work or not. Maybe there is still a flaw in with Winreducer with the support of RS2 when integrating updates until now or the implementation of the updates that Microsoft supplies has changed. For now it will be tricky to reduce a installation too much because the build I used now as a daily driver also would not update anymore. Still there is a combination with RS2 and some components that breaks future cumulative updates.

Will build various different Windows 10's and I will see what happens next.
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